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Ohh, the IronySift is strong with this one. Jeff Kreisler makes the infamous error of joking about assassinating Barack Obama at about 2:00 in this clip from the Glasgow International Comedy Festival.
I don't really think he's got the delivery to do this kind of stuff. Sifted because I am interested in seeing you try to figure out how to vote, and on what basis... especially considering the reaction when Fox did the same thing in a different context.
From his official biog:
"A writer for Comedy Central's Indecision2008 and winner of the Bill Hicks Spirit Award for Thought Provoking Comedy, Jeff Kreisler has his own critically-acclaimed political comedy tour (Comedy Against Evil), syndicated business humor column and video (Funny Money), and a sweet book deal with Harper Collins to write the satire Get Rich Cheating. He recently performed with the major US Presidential candidates, is in the staff and cast of the new show from the creator of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Shoot The Messenger), had a 5-star show at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and was just invited to the Glasgow International Comedy Fest. He went to Princeton, Exeter, and Virginia Law School, has performed on TV and radio networks, was an all-league football player, taught English in Russia, started a non-profit dedicated to at-risk youth, plays mediocre blues on the alto sax, lives in New York City, misses San Francisco, Boston, and D.C., and, most of all, loves asparagus." jeffkreisler.com
I don't really think he's got the delivery to do this kind of stuff. Sifted because I am interested in seeing you try to figure out how to vote, and on what basis... especially considering the reaction when Fox did the same thing in a different context.
From his official biog:
"A writer for Comedy Central's Indecision2008 and winner of the Bill Hicks Spirit Award for Thought Provoking Comedy, Jeff Kreisler has his own critically-acclaimed political comedy tour (Comedy Against Evil), syndicated business humor column and video (Funny Money), and a sweet book deal with Harper Collins to write the satire Get Rich Cheating. He recently performed with the major US Presidential candidates, is in the staff and cast of the new show from the creator of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Shoot The Messenger), had a 5-star show at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and was just invited to the Glasgow International Comedy Fest. He went to Princeton, Exeter, and Virginia Law School, has performed on TV and radio networks, was an all-league football player, taught English in Russia, started a non-profit dedicated to at-risk youth, plays mediocre blues on the alto sax, lives in New York City, misses San Francisco, Boston, and D.C., and, most of all, loves asparagus." jeffkreisler.com
http://www.videosift.com/video/FOX-jokes-about-killing-Obama
But even failing that, "Osa--oba--Osama, I mean, Obama, well, both if we could, hur hur hur," is utterly different from a comic verbalizing (seemingly in empathy) the emotion that a lot of people really do feel--"This is a great man, and so many times in the past fifty years, that has ended in tragedy."
There's gallows humor, and then there's the FOX woman.
FOX is not allowed to joke about this, because it will obviously incite assassination, but a Comedy Central writer is allowed, because, well, because of the enormous amount of previous upvotes for comedy central.
noun
1. discourse that surrounds a language unit and helps to determine its interpretation
2. the set of facts or circumstances that surround a situation or event; "the historical context"
For you, MINK, because there is a world of contextual difference between a stand-up comic in the middle of his routine, and a so-called pundit being a total fuckwit on a national news show.
Now go look up "irony."
that is why i posted it. i am interested in context. you are looking for a fight that isn't here.
of course i expected the different context to get a different reaction.
as for irony, dictionary.com says:
2. Literature.
b. (esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
I don't see how that's wrong; it's pessimistic, but it's nowhere near the same as wishing for it (quite the opposite).
He said: Many positive things about Obama, thus relating: "Oh my God, he's going to be assassinated." Seeing that Obama is often compared to MLK Jr. (in regard to his speaking ability, and his message of hope), I see the context of the joke.